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« on: March 24, 2008, 10:08:43 AM »

A friend of mine who is a long time Thailand resident and former university instructor tells me that there is a version of Thai spoken in Korat called Tai Deung. I've asked around and no one, not even Ms. B, has heard of it. My friend says that he often finds Bangkok taxi drivers from in and around Korat who know all about it and who explain to him how it differs from Central Thai. It is supposedly a derivative of Central Thai and not Lao as is the case with some other dialects spoken in Isaan.

Can anyone enlighten me? Perhaps those of you with Thai partners could ask them about it?

TIA
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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2008, 10:35:41 AM »

A friend of mine who is a long time Thailand resident and former university instructor tells me that there is a version of Thai spoken in Korat called Tai Deung.
Can anyone enlighten me? Perhaps those of you with Thai partners could ask them about it?

Yes, I have solid confirmation.
Thai Deung (with a falling tone) is the name of a variant of Phasaa Korat that is found around Amphoe Phathai. Yes, it is based more on Central Thai than on any of the Lao-derived languages of Isaan, and is described as a type of Phasaa Korat. In fact, the way I heard it, it seems more like a peculiar pronunciation of Korat than a separate dialect.

This is from the brilliant woman who serves as secretary of the English department here and a life-long Korat resident.
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2008, 12:10:06 PM »

Cliff - A millions thanks!
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2008, 01:06:44 PM »

My wife speaks Passat Korat but "Tai Deung" seems to be an old version of Thai, not only spoken around here.
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2008, 03:20:12 PM »

My wife is from Korat and Tai Deung she says is from korat, but is a old language, she also said prassat means to have a mental illness in Thai....   Grin
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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2008, 03:24:02 PM »

Prasat Thai=thai language
Prasaaaaaaaat=crazy but not meaning to offend.
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2008, 03:27:57 PM »

My wife is sitting here telling me to say it's Phasaa Thai without the "T" on the end,.... Huh
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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2008, 04:36:20 PM »

Prasat Thai=thai language
Prasaaaaaaaat=crazy but not meaning to offend.

Thats where, and thats why my wife said it dont have the T on the end of it...  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2008, 04:41:10 PM »

Perhaps when you combine "phassa" and "Thai" it sounds to some ears as if it is "phassat Thai"?
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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2008, 04:59:43 PM »

It is difficult to write down in phonetic.Esspecially if your not a native english speaker.
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I suppose I failed the test now Huh
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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2008, 05:09:21 PM »

Nooo you did not fail Dutch... Just many people spell things phoneticly different. even the karaoke discs do.
Sorry if i came across as having a pop at you...or anybody.   Cry
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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2008, 05:48:15 PM »

^No worries. This is a good discussion.
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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2008, 05:57:03 PM »

I've moved this thread from the Thai language section only because, perhaps perversely on this occasion, it is reserved for those who wish to converse in any dialect of Thai other than English.  Smiley

It's an interesting thread so please continue here.
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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2008, 01:41:15 AM »

I spend time a while to know that the thai word written in english Tai Deung is ไทยเดิ้ง. hope I understand it correctly and if it is. Thai deung also called Thai beung or Thai Korat. There's some info on internet but only in Thai I've seen. Some thai webboard there's also member use the member name as Thai deung to show where they're from. Thai deung sounds similar to central but just different tone in some words and use these words at the end of sentence, "Berng" เบิ้ง "Deung" เดิ้ง ... etc

The links show some info but in Thai:

http://www.isan.clubs.chula.ac.th/webboard/?transaction=post_view.php&mod=re_mi&room_no=0&id_main=3&qt=32&star=10

http://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B9%84%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%A2%E0%B9%82%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%8A#.E0.B8.A0.E0.B8.B2.E0.B8.A9.E0.B8.B2

The language been used in many Amphoes in Korat execpt some Amphoes where more people speak Issaan language same as other provinces in the northeast region.

To the O/P if the topic didn't pronouce as ไทยเดิ้ง so I'd like to apologise that my post is just useless. Sad

Learning language is one difficult thing in my life.  Cry




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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2008, 09:33:04 AM »

Orchid, thanks for your post and especially for the Thai Wikipedia reference. I'd looked for that and couldn't find it. You've got the right word. I appreciate your taking the time to look in to this for me.

Cheers!
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